Actresses Taraji P Henson and Ellen Pompeo sit down to discuss what it’s like being a successful, empowered actress in modern-day Hollywood.

Taraji P Henson and Ellen Pompeo are strong, empowered actresses leading two of the most watched shows on television. Pompeo has been heading up Grey’s Anatomy for 15 years while Henson stormed onto Empire five seasons ago. Both actresses have had long careers (Henson was nominated for an Academy Award) but it’s their series that made them household names. The two actresses sat down to discuss how the industry has changed for women in recent years.

Taraji P Henson and Ellen Pompeo Discuss Fair Pay and Toxic Culture in Hollywood

It’s clear from the interview that Taraji P Henson and Ellen Pompeo have a lot in common. Aside from playing strong leads, they’re both nearing 50 and feel they finally know their worth as actresses. Neither are afraid to ask for what they want and they’re willing to walk away if they don’t get what they deserve. Henson discusses how hard it was to get the paycheck she deserved due to race and gender; Pompeo discusses the toxic work environment on Grey’s Anatomy in the early days and how inspired she is by strong women in the industry.

Taraji P Henson and Ellen Pompeo Discuss Fair Pay and Toxic Culture in Hollywood

It doesn’t matter if you watch Empire or Grey’s Anatomy, this is one interview you don’t want to miss!